Gove pleads with voters to separate referendum from the General Election, and brands EU "a runaway bus"
Leading Brexiteer Michael Gove last night said, "I'm not going to change David Cameron." The comments come amid claims that Gove, fellow "Brexit" campaigner Boris Johnson, or Chancellor George Osborne could succeed the Prime Minister as Conservative Party Leader either after the referendum or later.
Speaking to a EU referendum debate audience, held at a North London Synagogue, the Justice Secretary said there are "people on the remain side who I have a little less time for - Ken Livingston, Gerry Adams." But he claimed that "there are people who will put their case for "Remain", and I admire their contribution: David Cameron is one, [as is] Nick Clegg."
Gove was debating against Lord Falconer, former [and current Shadow] Lord Chancellor and Secretary of State for Justice, and pleaded that: "One of the good things is that we can separate from the General Election. At the General Election people made a choice, and made the right one."
"The referendum is different: it's a way of saying to the Prime Minister, 'I'd like to be out of the EU, please negotiate' or 'I'd like to stay in the EU, carry on', he said. He told the secret that "the man who cuts my hair" was in the audience. Responding to a question about sovereignty and who should negotiate after the referendum, Gove claimed the ability to fire a professional was the same as firing a politician. "I'm not going to change my hairdresser; I'm not going to change David Cameron. But I would like to change the instructions I'd like to give from time to time," he promised.
Continuing to praise Cameron, Gove remarked that, "the prime minister managed to secure certain things for Britain, which I applaud." But he repeated that "what he wasn't able to do was to persuade the other countries in the EU to change their direction."
He surprised the audience by saying "In a sense we are... a bit like a car tied to a runaway bus, and wherever that bus goes, we are destined to follow." Arguing that "the thing to do is to snip that cord", the Brexiteer forecast a "Golden Future for talented young people" if Britain votes to "Leave" on June 23rd. "Outside the Union we'd still have free trade but we'd also have the opportunity to renovate relationships with countries across the world that are growing faster and creating opportunities for younger people."
He also took aim at business groups such as the CBI, saying there are "hundreds of of people who don't sit in organisations with posh brass name plates; people who are grafting every day and creating jobs.... People who are entrepreneurs."
"If the choice is between an academic and a businessman, then I'd prefer to put my money with the businessman; and I would always say to the academic, "If you're so clever, then why aren't you rich?"
But Lord Falconer questioned "if we have said to Europe that we don't want to be a part of the same economic entity... How do you deal with problems of immigration?"
In a rallying cry for those who are apathetic or bored, Lord Falconer said "it is a very energising debate that's going on... a consequence of having a debate that people are really engaged in and think sill really affect then is that passions rise high..."
"The spinological way of politics, which really turns people off, rather gets thrown to the wind. So although it is difficult to see from time to time one member of a party attack another, it allows us to see what politicians are like," he argued
He claimed that "that very nice Mr Duncan Smith's" has said "hostile and extreme things about government" but "Presumably [he'd said them] because he feels so strongly about what should happen in the EU debate."
"I'm obviously from a different side of the fence. But it's good for our politics, and it's good for people to see politicians giving from their heart irrespective of their political allegiance," he mused.
He conceded "it is impossible to be part of a free market without agreeing to give that body some power." But he said that " I don't think it's anti-democratic - we give some power to other organisations." He added, "Can we avoid being part of a United States of Europe? Of course: that's not what the country wants, it's not what the country will ever want, and any further power given to the EU has to be agreed in a referendum."